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Oscar Robertson Doesn’t Think Jordan is the Greatest Ever

June 9, 2011 – Kevin Burke

Look at what Scottie Pippen has started. He just had to open his mouth last week and say that LeBron James may be the greatest player ever. I’m sure when Pip made those comments, he had no clue that Oscar Robertson would jump in as well. Yesterday, while making an appearance on the Dan Sileo Show on WDAE in Tampa, Robertson was asked what he thought about Scottie’s comments concerning Michael and LeBron. That apparently struck a nerve with the Big-O:

“I didn’t hear the comments. Let me tell you about what being great is. Ever hear of Elgin Baylor? Never mention his name, do we? Great basketball player. You know what you have today? Michael Jordan was a great player, but he won after Chicago got Pippen, Grant and those other players to go along with him, because for a while they couldn’t beat Detroit.

“Everybody looks at what you’ve done. Sure he won six championships, Russell won eleven. There are other players on these teams when they play. They don’t play by themselves. Michael Jordan is a great player. Was he the greatest? Ask Kobe that. Ask Bill Russell. Ask Oscar Robertson. Ask Wilt Chamberlain. Ask Elgin Baylor, Jerry West, ask those guys.”

“The problem today is you get some people who have never been around a basketball. The media now has anointed Michael Jordan the greatest of all time. Is he greatest of all time? No, I don’t think he is. I think he is a great player. There have been other great players as well, great players before I played. Now you have a situation where Pippen is saying (James) could be better than Michael Jordan, and everyone gets so upset by it. All these commentators, did they ever see any of these guys play?”

Wow. Let that marinade for a minute. Somewhere right now, Jordan is thinking to himself, “Did I miss something? Where is all of this coming from?” And he’s also pissed. Everyone knows that Jordan wants nothing more than to always be considered the greatest ever. See his Hall of Fame inductee speech for further evidence of this.

Like I said in Podcast 55, whether you agree with Scottie Pippen or not, who are we to call his claim crazy? The man played with Jordan. If there’s anyone walking this Earth who has enough credibility to make such a claim regarding Jordan, it’s Pippen. You can certainly disagree with him, but no one can dismiss his comments as being complete absurdity. Why? Again, because he’s Scottie Pippen.

Similarly, I also see where Robertson is coming from. With each passing day, the collective sports fan continues to dismiss the relevancy of more and more events that took place before they were born. That’s primarily because they aren’t aware of them. I take writing and podcasting for The Hoop Doctors very seriously because I’m extremely passionate about basketball and above all, I’m a fan of the game. Therefore, I’ve also always had a fond appreciation for the history of the League and have noticed that what happened in the NBA prior to the 1976 NBA-ABA merger isn’t referred to nearly as often as what has occured since. Of course, Robertson retired prior to the merger so he falls into that forgotten timeframe so I’m sure there’s a certain level of disdain when “the greatest ever” debate comes up. Actually, there’s isn’t a debate because like he said, we have already unilaterally given that distinction to Michael Jordan.

As time goes on, it’s only going to get worse for Robertson and his brethren from the early days of the League. When I stop and think how young some guys in the league are, and given the world we now live in in 2011, I realize that Allen Iverson will eventually become a distant memory. The youngest player in the NBA today is Utah’s Derrick Favors. To put that into historical context, not only is he too young to have any vivid recollection of Michael Jordan’s playing days whatsoever (even in Washington), but he was born the same year Shaq entered the League.

Sorry, where was I? Oh yeah.

This is the first time I’ve ever heard anybody, let alone two Hall of Famers denounce Michael Jordan’s greatness. It’s silly for me to argue with Oscar Robertson or Scottie Pippen, so I won’t. I’ll just say that if Mike isn’t the greatest, the list of those who are/were better is a very short one. And for what it’s worth, I’ve always thought Oscar and Elgin Baylor to be among the most under appreciated players ever. Ironically, they’re both pre-merger guys.

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  • Ikiecohen

    Oscar was a great player but need Alcindor to win. 

    He was not as good as Jerry West, in spite of his stats. Just look at their relative stats in college and pro playoffs. 

    And like Rick Barry, he is one of the world’s biggest and most chronic downers. I don’t know what his problem is, but he is one big sourpuss. 

    • Dennish329

      ” The dude is telling the truth, many of you only know throught the media about players you never actually seen them play.”

  • Ikiecohen

    Oscar was a great player but need Alcindor to win. 

    He was not as good as Jerry West, in spite of his stats. Just look at their relative stats in college and pro playoffs. 

    And like Rick Barry, he is one of the world’s biggest and most chronic downers. I don’t know what his problem is, but he is one big sourpuss. 

  • Proinnyc

    What can I say… jealousy is a bitch. Period end of argument.

  • Andyettinger

    Build your team around Wilt and you’ll go on 33 game winning streaks.The man didn’t even have to score to dominate.That’s why he and Russell will always be the greatest ballplayers of all time.

    Followed by Oscar,Kareem and Michael.

    That’s not dissing Michael in any way.Magic,Elgin,Larry and Julius either.

    • Gpez123

      its become a taboo to even question MJ…..before he got Pippen Grant and Jackson. He was a great scorer that got beat by the Celtics and Pistons and the league revolved around Lakers/Celtics only when Bird and Magic were on their downside did he take over the league. 

    • Gpez123

      its become a taboo to even question MJ…..before he got Pippen Grant and Jackson. He was a great scorer that got beat by the Celtics and Pistons and the league revolved around Lakers/Celtics only when Bird and Magic were on their downside did he take over the league. 

    • Gpez123

      its become a taboo to even question MJ…..before he got Pippen Grant and Jackson. He was a great scorer that got beat by the Celtics and Pistons and the league revolved around Lakers/Celtics only when Bird and Magic were on their downside did he take over the league. 

    • Gpez123

      its become a taboo to even question MJ…..before he got Pippen Grant and Jackson. He was a great scorer that got beat by the Celtics and Pistons and the league revolved around Lakers/Celtics only when Bird and Magic were on their downside did he take over the league. 

    • Gpez123

      its become a taboo to even question MJ…..before he got Pippen Grant and Jackson. He was a great scorer that got beat by the Celtics and Pistons and the league revolved around Lakers/Celtics only when Bird and Magic were on their downside did he take over the league. 

    • Gpez123

      its become a taboo to even question MJ…..before he got Pippen Grant and Jackson. He was a great scorer that got beat by the Celtics and Pistons and the league revolved around Lakers/Celtics only when Bird and Magic were on their downside did he take over the league. 

  • Dee

    I have the Big O ranked ahead of Jordan on my list. I think he was a more complete player. We are talking about a Guard who averaged 30 ppg 10 rpg 10 apg over the course of his first five seasons –that’s impressive. Most importantly, he could make all-stars out of players who possessed meager talent: Wayne Embry and Adrian Smith. This was during a time when being an all-star actually meant something rather than the popularity contest and goof off exhibition that we see today.

    Oscar is correct; fans need to become more knowledgable of the great players of the past before they make claims of a modern player being “the greatest ever.” Nobody can seriously make this claim without historical knowledge and perspective to support it.

  • Dee

    I have the Big O ranked ahead of Jordan on my list. I think he was a more complete player. We are talking about a Guard who averaged 30 ppg 10 rpg 10 apg over the course of his first five seasons –that’s impressive. Most importantly, he could make all-stars out of players who possessed meager talent: Wayne Embry and Adrian Smith. This was during a time when being an all-star actually meant something rather than the popularity contest and goof off exhibition that we see today.

    Oscar is correct; fans need to become more knowledgable of the great players of the past before they make claims of a modern player being “the greatest ever.” Nobody can seriously make this claim without historical knowledge and perspective to support it.

  • Mookj23

    MJ is the best to ever play the game and that fact just happens to strike a nerve in other players. Because it automatically puts them in a loss Column for their otherwise great careers as pro basketball players. For instance take Derrick Favors for example. I’m willing to bet at sometime in his life he was inspired by Micheal Jordan like millions of others that did not see him play during his era. MJ changed the game and the culture surrounding it. The baggy shorts, the wristband on the forearm, the marketability of his brand. What is greater than still being relevant a decade after your done. I wont. Mention the clutch, his #’s, overall drive that put him exactly where they are fringe to knock him off off. It wont happen. GREATEST OF ALL TIME HANDS DOWN! Not even a close 2nd has yet to be seen. Period

    • Andyettinger

      Think MJ would be crashing the lane and dunking on Wilt?

      • Dee

        Agreed, Andy. If MJ had tried that on Wilt, Wilt would have knocked him into the cheap seats. We know what happened when Gus Johnson tried to test Wilt — and it wasn’t pretty.

      • Garygogetta

        add = getting Wilt in foul trouble ha ha ! probably abuse the big fella.

        • Cakapoo

          wilt never fouled out of a game in his career

      • Jazzwalder

        He might have tried it.
        “Little man, don’t come in here again.”
        “Who you think you talkin to? I’m Michael Jordan!”
        Dribble, pitter-patter…… Wham!!!!
        “Told you don’t come in here no more.”
        “Yes, sir, Mr. Chamberlain.”

      • Cary Simmons

        Maybe so. Who knows?

    • WestC Fan

      You out of you short span mind,Bill Russel hands down,11 rings take a back seat.

    • WestC Fan

      You out of you short span mind,Bill Russel hands down,11 rings take a back seat.

    • Dennish329

       You have the right to your opinion but keep it real!!! The internet,espn,etc, helped create MJ’s image as the greatest ever. There are too many great players to call MJ the greatest of all time. He deserves to be put in the top 5 of all time, but greatest ever basketball player??? Please…

  • Tom

    Even without the championships, Jordan would still be the greatest. Does the Big O really think Elgin Baylor was better than Jordan?

  • gpez123

    we have to equate everything as this is the best ever. We don’t take things into context. Its funny that people say oh Lebron is no MJ he is more Magic Johnson. We forgot how great Magic Johnson was. Yes MJ was the Greatest player from 92 to the time he retired with the Bulls. Just like Magic/Bird were the greatest in the 80’s. We have an entire generation of people that never other great players. I think that is what the BIG O is saying Why can’t we just take players for their individual greatness but we have to say no he is great but just not great enough.

  • Jrocher

    I always cringe when I’m about to read something Oscar Robertson said. Much like Bob Feller, he’s very bitter about the accolades and praise those who came after him get.

  • Kevin Burke

    Great stuff here. I think one of Oscar’s points is that we should be able to discuss who the greatest player of all-time is and why, without the answer automatically being Jordan simply because that’s they way it’s been. I understand where he’s coming from.

  • ryno

    lol this oscar guy better watch mj play again… best player ever hands down not even somebody that can come a close second… the league when oscar, and wilt the stilt were playing wasnt nearly as tough as it is now..

  • @Andy:  Your comments were ‘right on’.  I have been a Basketball Fan since High School and I’m 78 years old.  I saw them  all. NBA, ABA and the Merger. I was in L.A., when the Lakers won 33 straight!  Forget the STATS and forget the CHAMPIONSHIPS, the greatest single Basketball Player of my time was :Wilt the Stilt! I agree that All the other players named in these comments were Great! None of them single handedly could carry a team or shut down a team like CHAMBERLIN.

  • Arnoldadkins

    The Big O was amazing. I saw him as a kid! He should be mentioned as one of the greatest of all-time whenever the subject comes up. I am not sure about his defense? Jerry is the logo and Michael is the greatest. KOBE is my # 2 he is just too sweet, sleek and determined for words. The #1 overrated player on the planet Julius Erving. Mr Dunk and that is it could not shoot, could not defend and got whupped by Larry Bird. Take him off the NBA commercials and when you do show him make sure Moses Malone is in the picture he was the MVP.

  • Mike C.

    You MJ dissers are all crazy!!!  Every great champion had other great players around them, but no one played better and dominated the post-season like MJ, especially at his position.  Oscar was great but remember he played in a watered down league, where arguably his best competition was in the ABA.

    He dominated in the modern era of basketball where there is such physical parity.  In the past, there were great players and then there were the other guys.  The great players had no physical equivalents.

  • Mike C.

    You MJ dissers are all crazy!!!  Every great champion had other great players around them, but no one played better and dominated the post-season like MJ, especially at his position.  Oscar was great but remember he played in a watered down league, where arguably his best competition was in the ABA.

    He dominated in the modern era of basketball where there is such physical parity.  In the past, there were great players and then there were the other guys.  The great players had no physical equivalents.

  • Mike C.

    You MJ dissers are all crazy!!!  Every great champion had other great players around them, but no one played better and dominated the post-season like MJ, especially at his position.  Oscar was great but remember he played in a watered down league, where arguably his best competition was in the ABA.

    He dominated in the modern era of basketball where there is such physical parity.  In the past, there were great players and then there were the other guys.  The great players had no physical equivalents.

  • Mike C.

    You MJ dissers are all crazy!!!  Every great champion had other great players around them, but no one played better and dominated the post-season like MJ, especially at his position.  Oscar was great but remember he played in a watered down league, where arguably his best competition was in the ABA.

    He dominated in the modern era of basketball where there is such physical parity.  In the past, there were great players and then there were the other guys.  The great players had no physical equivalents.

    • Dennish329

       I’m not dissing MJ,he is a great player. Wilt dominated in the basketball era of his time too,so did Russell,West, Baylor, and Robinson. Kareem also did it through the years!!! Don’t let the media tell you who the greatest is when we didn’t see all the others play…”

    • Sportsguy

      LOL. You said he Oscar played in a watered down league? Are you serious? When he played every team in the league had at least two maybe three legit allstars. Games were tough back then. Knicks had Clyde, Reed, Debusschere, Bradley. Boston with Hondo, Jo Jo, Cowens. Bucks had Kareem, Bobby Dandridge, Oscar. I could go on and on. There were no teams like the 2010-2011 Nets, TWolves or Wizards. Learn your NBA History son…

  • Loyd_delacruz45

    kobe is the greatest player ever

  • Loyd_delacruz45

    i agree to oscar robertson.. jordan is a great player bot not greatest ever.. 

  • Loyd_delacruz45

    i agree to oscar robertson.. jordan is a great player bot not greatest ever.. 

  • foreall

    all respect to these past greats,but we got one question,and that is the level at which basketball is being played now,including the laws and changes right now,could these guys be that    great,because kobe,lebron,wade,and all the favorable high ranking players of these modern times are proven facts that know one or team is a walk over

  • Sorrybigo

    That’s ironic that Oscar Robertson uses the fact that Jordan didn’t win until after Pippen and Grant (who I never considered a real factor) got on his team, as a reason why he isn’t the greatest, considering he himself didn’t win a thing until he was teamed with Lew Alcindor and even then, he only one 1. Nobody won a ring by themselves and I think that Jordan probably had the least help out of anybody; nevertheless, he won 6.
    I don’t think he meant that Elgin Baylor was actually better than Jordan when he mentioned him, he can’t have. Elgin Baylor’s game was like Jordan’s, but he doesn’t get enough recognition; that’s what he must’ve meant…or else he’s just wrong if he really thinks Baylor was better.
    Kobe and West weren’t even close.
    As for Wilt, I doubt all this talk about the greatest of all time, without even mentioning his name, would’ve sat well with him. Nobody put up numbers like Wilt and no one ever will. His scoring numbers are just the same as MJ (despite his fall from grace) and just when they said that he was a selfish player, he leads the league in assists the very next season, just to make a point. Not only that, but his and Bill Russell’s rebounds and blocked shots were double the number the most dominant defensive center of our day, Dwight Howard, gets.
    Speaking of Russell, he pioneered the way defense is played in basketball, earning him an incomperable 11 rings in the process. But both him and Wilt had a lot more help winning rings than Jordan ever had. Besides this, although there were several great players back then, the vast majority of players sucked, so it’s no surprise the great ones absolutely dominated. Jordan dominated during a much more competitive era.

  • Sorrybigo

    That’s ironic that Oscar Robertson uses the fact that Jordan didn’t win until after Pippen and Grant (who I never considered a real factor) got on his team, as a reason why he isn’t the greatest, considering he himself didn’t win a thing until he was teamed with Lew Alcindor and even then, he only one 1. Nobody won a ring by themselves and I think that Jordan probably had the least help out of anybody; nevertheless, he won 6.
    I don’t think he meant that Elgin Baylor was actually better than Jordan when he mentioned him, he can’t have. Elgin Baylor’s game was like Jordan’s, but he doesn’t get enough recognition; that’s what he must’ve meant…or else he’s just wrong if he really thinks Baylor was better.
    Kobe and West weren’t even close.
    As for Wilt, I doubt all this talk about the greatest of all time, without even mentioning his name, would’ve sat well with him. Nobody put up numbers like Wilt and no one ever will. His scoring numbers are just the same as MJ (despite his fall from grace) and just when they said that he was a selfish player, he leads the league in assists the very next season, just to make a point. Not only that, but his and Bill Russell’s rebounds and blocked shots were double the number the most dominant defensive center of our day, Dwight Howard, gets.
    Speaking of Russell, he pioneered the way defense is played in basketball, earning him an incomperable 11 rings in the process. But both him and Wilt had a lot more help winning rings than Jordan ever had. Besides this, although there were several great players back then, the vast majority of players sucked, so it’s no surprise the great ones absolutely dominated. Jordan dominated during a much more competitive era.

  • YoureaPHD

    You know, I love it when you delete my posts; it shows me that you feel intimidated by my superior insight and knowledge.

  • YoureaPHD

    You know, I love it when you delete my posts; it shows me that you feel intimidated by my superior insight and knowledge.

  • YoureaPHD

    You know, I love it when you delete my posts; it shows me that you feel intimidated by my superior insight and knowledge.

  • Jojojones99

    I do believe that Mr. Robertson knows as much about basketball as any person on earth.  There is no scientific way to determine the best ever.  Argue all day long and you still won’t prove your point. 

    It’s difficult to intellegently argue with the Big O, so simply stop doing so.  Enjoy the game and I don’t care whose jersey you wear playing in your driveway, it doesn’t make them the “best ever”.

  • Smooth

    Ok I have so many things to say about this it’s fucking unbelievable so here goes:

    1) Robertson has a big ass chip on his shoulder because you’re right, pre-merger basketball players are less thought of but those who appreciate basketball will always appreciate what they did to the game. I agree with Proinnyc, jealousy is a bitch. MJ throughout his career and even after it never has accepted the accolade of being “the greatest player to ever play the game” because he always says he’s never played against NBA legends so how can you give it to him. That’s MJ’s own philosophy on it, so why the fuck are we listening to everyone’s words except the guy we’re actually discussing?

    2) “Everyone knows that Jordan wants nothing more than to always be considered the greatest ever.” No, Jordan has never wanted that it was just given to him because of what he did for the game of basketball, he revolutionized it from all angles: gave a new meaning to athleticism, what a guard in the NBA is capable of, stretched the boundaries of basketball internationally. I would love to see any other player handle MJ’s path off the court while still doing what he did on the court with the same grace, charisma, and maturity that he had at such a young age. So again Jordan has never wanted that accolade it was given to him because of global media hype. I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve it I’m explaining why people automatically say that he’s the greatest to ever play.

    3) What MJ said in his HOF inductee speech was all about wanting the recognition that he worked every single day to be the best basketball player that HE could be, not the greatest basketball player to ever play the game. He wanted people to realize the work, the challenges, and the failure that was behind all the success that he had earned. Before making assumptions that that’s what he wants listen to the man and try to comprehend why he would be saying all that. Also I’d like to add that yes many people who don’t know a damn thing about basketball will go to the default answer of being MJ being the best player ever, but who did MJ bring to induct him into the hall? David Thompson, nobody expected that shit. It showed that basketball history and the challenges players back then endured off the court meant a lot to MJ so the Big-O needs to take that shit into consideration before verbally crying and showcasing his depression and also dissing Michael at the same time.

    4) Ok ya Pippen played with Jordan but he would’ve loved for Lebron to have won and his comments to have gained credibility because let’s face it, at the end of the day everyone loves Scottie and the Bulls couldn’t have won without him even Jordan has said that, but Jordan overshadowed him and also taught him a lot about basketball. That’s according to Phil Jackson, you know that guy who stepped in and told Jordan to score less so the Bulls could win titles. Ya, he’s who we should be listening to and he’s also stated that to see Michael go out and do what he did every single night was the most unbelievable thing he’s ever seen, no player has ever been that consistently dominant I think we can all agree there.

    I meant no disrespect with all I said but some things just get me going to a point where I can’t hold back and now I kinda know how Charles Barkley feels every minute of his life. Mr. Burke you made some great points but some of the conclusions you stated seriously got to me, just saying.

    p.s. Oscar Robertson, why don’t you go and ask some NBA legends who are still with us today and let us know what they think about MJ, more than likely they will show the same respect for him that the rest of the world does.

    Peace

  • Gl_rainer

    just my opinion…no such thing as greatest of all time simply because basketball is a 5 man game…but jordan to me is the greatest shooting guard to play the game.

  • Darrin Ballard

    50 points 25 rebounds 48.5 minutes per game for a full season. Will anyone ever do that again? I think O is right, MJ has done this under a much more effective amplifier, if Chamberlain did this now the press would be apoplectic. Just sayin’

  • John Jancar

    All the old timers think their era was better, and had better players, naturally. All the people today think this era is better, and don’t think the old timers could ever compete with them, naturally. But which is the truth. Well here’s my take.

    I’ve been a student of basketball since I was 5 years old, and I’ve watched games from all the eras, I’ve seen all the great games with all the great players, since basketball was recorded on film. I have no bias about which era is better or worse, I have no loyalty to any player or any team or any era. I try to look at it objectively, and judge purely on what I see on the screen when I watch games.

    And it’s my objective perception of the game, that makes me say this. The best player I’ve ever seen play in any era, was Michael Jordan. That’s just pure ability to play basketball, there was none better than Jordan at playing the game of
    basketball. He could score, he could pass, he could defend, he could dunk, he could steal, he could block shots, he could shoot the 3, shoot the mid J, shoot the free throw, everything that makes a basketball player, he had better than anyone else. Obviously there’s better 3 point shooters, there’s better rebounders, there’s better passers, etc. But overall, as an individual, Michael was the most complete basketball player there’s ever been.

    Now that’s just one facet of what makes a player great. But my definition of what makes a player great, is just pure ability on the basketball court. You don’t necessarily have to win championships. In fact, of all the criteria, championship rings is probably the least significant when it comes to defining a great
    player. Obviously I’d take Karl Malone over Robert Horry any day. I’d take LeBron James over Ron Harper any day. Championships don’t define players, they define teams, there’s a difference.

    That being said, the greatest of the great players also win championships. But you have to take into account how the game evolves with time. If you’d take Bill Russell’s Celtics and pit them against Jordan’s Chicago Bulls, it wouldn’t be a contest, the Bulls would win every game. Because the players back then just weren’t as good as players are today or in the 90s, and to deny that is to deny the obvious.

    Wilt Chamberlain was the most dominant player of his era. But put him in todays game, and he would most likely be a 6th man at best. As strong and athletic as he was, players today are more stronger and more athletic. As good as he was, players today are just that much better, and no reasonable person would say he would score 100 points in today’s game.

    Likewise, you put Michael Jordan in the 60s, and he would score at will. He could score every time he got the ball. Quite simply because, players back then just weren’t as good as players are now, or players were in the 90s, they would have no chance at stopping him.

    Players today, as individuals, are better than ever. They’re bigger, stronger, faster, more athletic, can shoot better, can defend better, they can play basketball better than their forefathers, and to deny that is to deny the obvious. As a whole, players today are the best the game’s ever seen. Individually I mean, as teams it’s a different story, today’s players don’t play team basketball all that well, but as individuals, they are the best to have played in any era, and you’d expect that.

    Jordan is still the greatest to ever play, but as great as MJ was, if he played today, he’d have a much harder time being Michael Jordan than he did when he played in the 80s and 90s, because players today are just that much better than 2 decades ago. That’s the law of consistency, that’s a law of life. Each generation is just a little bit more advanced than the previous, and it has to be that way or else life would become stagnant or devolve. And no matter what happens, life will always keep evolving.

  • John Jancar

    So sorry Oscar, you’re not better than Michael Jordan. You’re not even
    better than Kevin Durant. You played in an era where the skill level of
    your competitors wasn’t as great as it is today. Statistics don’t mean
    all that much, in terms of greatness. You were great for your time. For
    all time, I wouldn’t rank you top 10. Same with Elgin, same with Kareem,
    same with Bill Russell or even Wilt Chamberlain. You’re not top 10
    players of all time. That’s just the truth, you can deny it, but truth
    is, you just choose whether to see it or not.

    So to sum up, in my opinion, it’s foolish to compare eras, because life evolves. You can’t compare the 60s era, to the 90s era, because there is no comparison, 60s era loses. Players just weren’t as good back then. And if the great players from then played now, they wouldn’t be great players. That’s just the truth.

    It’s sad to have once been considered great, only to have younger more greater players get more accolades, but that’s how life goes. I want my kids to be better than me, I want the kids today to be better at everything then their parents, that ensures the survival and progression of our species. And I have no qualms about saying that, it’s something necessary. Do you want life to evolve, or not.

    So Oscar and all you old timers who seem bitter about having your greatness forgotten, nobody is forgetting how great you were. We’re just saying, there’s greater ones now. You were great for your time. But now is a different time, that’s all we’re saying. And you should applaud that, you should honor that, you should be happy future players turned out greater than you. That shows basketball is
    moving forward.

    I’m sure there’s a player that will come along who will be greater than Michael Jordan. I would hope so at least, because that means basketball is still evolving. I’d hate to think basketball reached it’s peak, and is now in the declining stages leading to death. That would be a sad thing indeed, so be happy that players are getting better and better, that shows basketball still has a way to go before it’s gone. Basketball is still growing, that’s a good thing. And if future players turn out better than me, good. That’s how it’s supposed to be.

    • Amazing86

      Lets not go overboard. Wilt would dominate in any era

  • stan

    C’mon, consider the skill sets of each era, would you think, wilt’s or bill’s skill set would dominate MJ’s or the current era? Don’t think so… MJ’s or Kobe or LBJ’s skill’s have vastly improve and definitely will just and much more quicker, posses high basketball IQ’s, plus the science of playing basketball is already a given in today’s world. Crossovers, acrobatic shots, power and high flying dunks were rarely seen in a basketball then.